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Post by Louie on Nov 26, 2023 22:35:30 GMT -2
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Post by mdbubba on Nov 27, 2023 11:32:12 GMT -2
My brain and brain alone say Bears, but my heart says Lancers in of course a close one. The O/U is either my savage 20 gauge I use for rabbit hunting or 55 points, with the Lancers winning 28-27. Either way, two great teams from FREDCO, with many of these kids competing against each other since they were 8. The communities share much of the area together, so win or lose its going to be a heartbreaker for someone.
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Post by Louie on Nov 27, 2023 12:16:20 GMT -2
Media guide team notes from Oakdale;
Oakdale Opened in 2010 With just Fr and So, then started Varsity in 2011 with no Seniors
The Program Started 1-18 but since then is 91-30
Kurt Stein in the only Head Coach in School History
Dom Nichols Michigan Univeristy Committ - Schools all time leader in Sacks and QB Pressures, 3rd All Time in Tackles
Evan Austin - UNC Charolotee Commit - Is the Schools All time Leader in All Rushing Statistics AND All Passing Statistics
Hunter Thompson - Universit of Ohio Commit - Schools All time leader in All Receiving Statistics
This is the Programs 3rd Trip to the Finals (Won 2018 2A State Title vs Glenelg and Lost the 2022 3A Finals vs Damascus)
In 2018 Oakdale Broke Damascus 53 Game winning streak that at the time was the longest in the country.
Mulitole Spread Offense
Mulitole 4-3 Defense
Notable Alumni: Collin Schlee (UCLA), Percey Agei-Obesse (JMU), Bryce DeMaille (Delaware), Maurio Goings (Delaware St), Justin Ritter (Towson)
Chase Haught (St Francis)
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Post by mdbubba on Nov 27, 2023 12:52:08 GMT -2
Media guide team notes from Oakdale; Oakdale Opened in 2010 With just Fr and So, then started Varsity in 2011 with no Seniors The Program Started 1-18 but since then is 91-30 Kurt Stein in the only Head Coach in School History Dom Nichols Michigan Univeristy Committ - Schools all time leader in Sacks and QB Pressures, 3rd All Time in Tackles Evan Austin - UNC Charolotee Commit - Is the Schools All time Leader in All Rushing Statistics AND All Passing Statistics Hunter Thompson - Universit of Ohio Commit - Schools All time leader in All Receiving Statistics This is the Programs 3rd Trip to the Finals (Won 2018 2A State Title vs Glenelg and Lost the 2022 3A Finals vs Damascus) In 2018 Oakdale Broke Damascus 53 Game winning streak that at the time was the longest in the country. Mulitole Spread Offense Mulitole 4-3 Defense Notable Alumni: Collin Schlee (UCLA), Percey Agei-Obesse (JMU), Bryce DeMaille (Delaware), Maurio Goings (Delaware St), Justin Ritter (Towson) Chase Haught (St Francis) I enjoyed watching the JMU RB Agei-Obesse on TV. Seemed like he was their forever. |
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Post by mdfootballman on Nov 27, 2023 14:01:57 GMT -2
If Petruzzello continues on the tear he has been on this playoff run, I think the lancers bring it home.
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Post by gomason1 on Nov 27, 2023 14:12:08 GMT -2
I believe these games usually come down to 3 things. Who has the better O/D Line, Experienced Coaching and then who has the best player. The trenches and the coaching seems to favor Linganore. Oakdale has the best player on the field with Austin and its not close. Can he do enough to overcome the other 2 Im not so sure. If Linganore can just pound the ball and keep him off the field then I think they win. If Austin goes off then it will be a long day for Linganore. If you put a gun to my head Im taking Linganore in a classic.
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Post by mdhsfbfan on Nov 27, 2023 15:23:48 GMT -2
I believe these games usually come down to 3 things. Who has the better O/D Line, Experienced Coaching and then who has the best player. The trenches and the coaching seems to favor Linganore. Oakdale has the best player on the field with Austin and its not close. Can he do enough to overcome the other 2 Im not so sure. If Linganore can just pound the ball and keep him off the field then I think they win. If Austin goes off then it will be a long day for Linganore. If you put a gun to my head Im taking Linganore in a classic. Better in the trenches? I don't know about that. Didn't they lose last time cause they kept getting stuffed on the goal line? Not so sure there's any coaching advantage there either. |
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Post by mdhsf1201 on Nov 27, 2023 15:55:50 GMT -2
I believe these games usually come down to 3 things. Who has the better O/D Line, Experienced Coaching and then who has the best player. The trenches and the coaching seems to favor Linganore. Oakdale has the best player on the field with Austin and its not close. Can he do enough to overcome the other 2 Im not so sure. If Linganore can just pound the ball and keep him off the field then I think they win. If Austin goes off then it will be a long day for Linganore. If you put a gun to my head Im taking Linganore in a classic. Better in the trenches? I don't know about that. Didn't they lose last time cause they kept getting stuffed on the goal line? Not so sure there's any coaching advantage there either. I would say that if we are just speaking in terms of head coaches, Coach Conner is the better coach than Kurt Stein. Coach Conner is one of the most accomplished coaches in the state, and consistently gets the most out of whatever he has. I do think that Stein is a very good coach, but the resume isn’t quite extensive enough for me to say he’s better than Conner. Line play can be a bit inconsistent in high school, as expected. Oakdale has the clear blue chip player on their defensive line, but I think both are pretty comparable. I’ll also word the point about Austin a bit differently- he will have the most impact on the game. As a passer and as a runner, they will go as he goes. If Linganore is able to contain him, their chances of winning improve greatly. He means more to the bears than any single player does to either team. I think the best player might be Ethan Arneson. All backs are in some way a product of line play, but Arneson never leaves meat on the bone with his runs. He has incredible vision, great strength, wonderful balance and a burst that he didn’t have years prior. The only reason he doesn’t have offers is because of his size. But if we are speaking strictly as a high school player, he might be the best in this game. The tricky thing for Oakdale is going to be how they play the Lancers defensively. My best guess is they play with a stacked box. But Petruzzello has shown noticeable improvement as both a passer and runner. It should be a good one! |
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Post by mdbubba on Nov 27, 2023 16:20:47 GMT -2
Better in the trenches? I don't know about that. Didn't they lose last time cause they kept getting stuffed on the goal line? Not so sure there's any coaching advantage there either. I would say that if we are just speaking in terms of head coaches, Coach Conner is the better coach than Kurt Stein. Coach Conner is one of the most accomplished coaches in the state, and consistently gets the most out of whatever he has. I do think that Stein is a very good coach, but the resume isn’t quite extensive enough for me to say he’s better than Conner. Line play can be a bit inconsistent in high school, as expected. Oakdale has the clear blue chip player on their defensive line, but I think both are pretty comparable. I’ll also word the point about Austin a bit differently- he will have the most impact on the game. As a passer and as a runner, they will go as he goes. If Linganore is able to contain him, their chances of winning improve greatly. He means more to the bears than any single player does to either team. I think the best player might be Ethan Arneson. All backs are in some way a product of line play, but Arneson never leaves meat on the bone with his runs. He has incredible vision, great strength, wonderful balance and a burst that he didn’t have years prior. The only reason he doesn’t have offers is because of his size. But if we are speaking strictly as a high school player, he might be the best in this game. The tricky thing for Oakdale is going to be how they play the Lancers defensively. My best guess is they play with a stacked box. But Petruzzello has shown noticeable improvement as both a passer and runner. It should be a good one! And the fact that the Lancer receivers are playing lights out this year. Last year they couldn't catch a pizza at the front door of Ledo's, but this year and especially the second half of the season they are catching everything, the pizza, everything. That will make a QB look good and visa versa. Ethan has great feet with that vision and his OL is playing better. |
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Post by Louie on Nov 27, 2023 16:22:18 GMT -2
You guys are leaving something out of your analysis... better student section, Oakdaliens 👽 or The Tribe 👹 ?
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Post by lionatheart on Nov 27, 2023 16:23:42 GMT -2
"Oakdale lost their starting corner #12 last week and the City receivers were getting wide open on blown coverage."
Anybody know if this kid will be back?
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Post by mdhsfbfan on Nov 27, 2023 16:23:52 GMT -2
Better in the trenches? I don't know about that. Didn't they lose last time cause they kept getting stuffed on the goal line? Not so sure there's any coaching advantage there either. I would say that if we are just speaking in terms of head coaches, Coach Conner is the better coach than Kurt Stein. Coach Conner is one of the most accomplished coaches in the state, and consistently gets the most out of whatever he has. I do think that Stein is a very good coach, but the resume isn’t quite extensive enough for me to say he’s better than Conner. Line play can be a bit inconsistent in high school, as expected. Oakdale has the clear blue chip player on their defensive line, but I think both are pretty comparable. I’ll also word the point about Austin a bit differently- he will have the most impact on the game. As a passer and as a runner, they will go as he goes. If Linganore is able to contain him, their chances of winning improve greatly. He means more to the bears than any single player does to either team. I think the best player might be Ethan Arneson. All backs are in some way a product of line play, but Arneson never leaves meat on the bone with his runs. He has incredible vision, great strength, wonderful balance and a burst that he didn’t have years prior. The only reason he doesn’t have offers is because of his size. But if we are speaking strictly as a high school player, he might be the best in this game. The tricky thing for Oakdale is going to be how they play the Lancers defensively. My best guess is they play with a stacked box. But Petruzzello has shown noticeable improvement as both a passer and runner. It should be a good one! I'm not saying that either one is better than the other. ...just that when you look at the two coaching staffs it's tough to argue that one team has a considerable advantage over the other. I don't know who wins on Saturday but it won't be because the other team was poorly coached. That's just not an issue with either of these teams. As for comparing Conner to Stein, I'm not sure it's fair to compare the accomplishments of a guy in his sixties to a guy who's something like...40? Who knows what they'll be saying about Stein when he reaches that age but he's already shown that he knows how to beat Linganore when the talent is available. |
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Post by mdhsfbfan on Nov 27, 2023 16:30:58 GMT -2
"Oakdale lost their starting corner #12 last week and the City receivers were getting wide open on blown coverage."Anybody know if this kid will be back? I have not yet heard but I've been asking around. Having him gone last week did seem to have a big impact at the beginning of the game. Two of City's 3 scores were on blown coverage with nobody even close to the receiver. But once they got things sorted they seemed fine and the coverage was actually not bad for the rest of the game considering the kind of talent City had. I think worse case scenario they'll put Austin at corner if they have to. Hopefully #12 is back though. |
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Post by mdhsf1201 on Nov 27, 2023 16:32:21 GMT -2
I would say that if we are just speaking in terms of head coaches, Coach Conner is the better coach than Kurt Stein. Coach Conner is one of the most accomplished coaches in the state, and consistently gets the most out of whatever he has. I do think that Stein is a very good coach, but the resume isn’t quite extensive enough for me to say he’s better than Conner. Line play can be a bit inconsistent in high school, as expected. Oakdale has the clear blue chip player on their defensive line, but I think both are pretty comparable. I’ll also word the point about Austin a bit differently- he will have the most impact on the game. As a passer and as a runner, they will go as he goes. If Linganore is able to contain him, their chances of winning improve greatly. He means more to the bears than any single player does to either team. I think the best player might be Ethan Arneson. All backs are in some way a product of line play, but Arneson never leaves meat on the bone with his runs. He has incredible vision, great strength, wonderful balance and a burst that he didn’t have years prior. The only reason he doesn’t have offers is because of his size. But if we are speaking strictly as a high school player, he might be the best in this game. The tricky thing for Oakdale is going to be how they play the Lancers defensively. My best guess is they play with a stacked box. But Petruzzello has shown noticeable improvement as both a passer and runner. It should be a good one! I'm not saying that either one is better than the other. ...just that when you look at the two coaching staffs it's tough to argue that one team has a considerable advantage over the other. I don't know who wins on Saturday but it won't be because the other team was poorly coached. That's just not an issue with either of these teams. As for comparing Conner to Stein, I'm not sure it's fair to compare the accomplishments of a guy in his sixties to a guy who's something like...40? Who knows what they'll be saying about Stein when he reaches that age but he's already shown that he knows how to beat Linganore when the talent is available. I guess I’m just confused because you just wanted to compare coaching and then said it isn’t fair to compare head coaches (who are in my opinion an important part of a coaching staff). |
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Post by bwrite on Nov 27, 2023 16:39:08 GMT -2
You guys are leaving something out of your analysis... better student section, Oakdaliens 👽 or The Tribe 👹 ? Roll Tribe - Twisted Teas will be flowing I'm sure come Saturday night. Lancer coaching staff is excellent - Connor's resume speaks for itself, HOF'er. Ricky Connors, Herman King, Scott Willett, Rich Thompson, Ward Kline have been together a long time consistently reaching the state finals. Roster wise OHS is deep. Their big (3) include a 4 star DE, and two 3 star wideouts/qb with all of them playing both ways this Saturday. Bear's have the upper hand.... and with only winning by 7 points in the previous match up... anything can go come Saturday..... I'm hoping afterwards Pour Decisions is crawling with Lancer fans! The Lancers best players don't have stars next to their names - but will they be ready once that fat lady sings? |
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