bos8
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Post by bos8 on Feb 16, 2024 11:07:36 GMT -2
Are any other coaches leaving PG County? Is Powell staying at Flowers?
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Post by lurker on Feb 17, 2024 3:14:49 GMT -2
Are any other coaches leaving PG County? Is Powell staying at Flowers? Only Wise and Laurel football jobs are open in PGCo. Powell is the president of the PGCo Football Coaches Association so one can soundly assume he will be around for 2024.
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Post by lurker on Feb 17, 2024 3:38:02 GMT -2
PG does not have so-called loose transfer policies. Actually most kids finish where they start. Football related transfers, are mostly from privates schools and I've always felt it was when private school kids learned going into their sophomore - junior season that they were not going to be starters or have significant play time. Moreover, PG does have an open seat program BUT these are transfer only TO under populated schools and it's just five schools; Friendly, Surrattsville, Douglass, Central. and Potomac. I think Coach P saw the handwriting on the wall because the last few years PG began cracking down on the transfer portal. Pretty sure Wise wouldn't have won the chip last year except for the Flowers debacle. I think Chuck County will be easier to get players in because it seems like all the schools have the special academic/technical programs. That's how North Point gets those players in. Beyond seeing the PGCo transfer preclusion handwriting on the wall, could it be more likely that DaLawn being the only coach Wise has ever had winning a boat load of titles is seeking a new challenge? Adding Parrish lives near Westlake and his kids attend Westlake and he knowing the in-place Westlake coach wanting to step down would present a near perfect opportunity to move on?
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Post by numbers on Feb 17, 2024 15:53:52 GMT -2
I think Coach P saw the handwriting on the wall because the last few years PG began cracking down on the transfer portal. Pretty sure Wise wouldn't have won the chip last year except for the Flowers debacle. I think Chuck County will be easier to get players in because it seems like all the schools have the special academic/technical programs. That's how North Point gets those players in. Beyond seeing the PGCo transfer preclusion handwriting on the wall, could it be more likely that DaLawn being the only coach Wise has ever had winning a boat load of titles is seeking a new challenge? Adding Parrish lives near Westlake and his kids attend Westlake and he knowing the in-place Westlake coach wanting to step down would present a near perfect opportunity to move on? A lurk heard coach Powell is going for that St Charles job lol smh.
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Post by mdhsfbfan on Feb 18, 2024 2:45:02 GMT -2
The SMAC is no joke and it's a small world down there. I think that team is about to become very successful.
If you build it, they will come.
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Post by lurker on Feb 18, 2024 9:43:39 GMT -2
In its own world the SMAC is no joke, but they have to up their game a notch for the larger state stage. The SMAC had many teams to go beyond round-1 of the playoffs and even deep and to title games but the SMAC was shut out for chips last season. Heck, around here many wanted to just hand a title trophy to North Point at mid-season just like they wanted to do to Fort Hill and Dunbar before the season but Something Happenned On The Way To The Forum for North Point called Mervo. Darn..... Huntingtown and Calvert fell short as did even shorter for Northern and Patuxent. Westlake should improve over the next couple seasons but not " very successful", not immediately because in order for Westlake to be very successful, Westlake will need to take Huntingtown - Patuxent - North Point - Calvert - and Northern. I hear the transfer banter many of you spout about Dalawn what he will do at Westlake to turn them around. But things are quite different in the SMAC for those really familar with it. That is, the successful SMAC teams have excellent youth feeder programs, not so-called transfers. Has anyone here seen the annual Huntingtown youth game where the youth teams in the Huntingtown area come to a Huntingtown game ALL dressed in Huntingtown gear and are paraded on the field at half time! The stands and around the field at Patuxent games are packed with youths dressed in Pax jerseys. SMAC kids of the better teams grow up longing to play for their respective teams. Save for North Point, newest St Charles, and older Westlake, SMAC teams are not densely populated areas but rather essentially small rural like areas. To me the SMAC is a three-tier TOP, middle, and bottom-feeder conference and Westlake is at bottom feeder that can only stay put or go up. DaLawn can certainly guide Westlake to move up but that will require Westlake to beat or be competitive against other middle and top SMAC teams, not easy in "eat your own SMAC" which is far different than " rollover running clock central 4A South". Just Saying....
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Post by numbers on Feb 18, 2024 12:54:14 GMT -2
In its own world the SMAC is no joke, but they have to up their game a notch for the larger state stage. The SMAC had many teams to go beyond round-1 of the playoffs and even deep and to title games but the SMAC was shut out for chips last season. Heck, around here many wanted to just hand a title trophy to North Point at mid-season just like they wanted to do to Fort Hill and Dunbar before the season but Something Happenned On The Way To The Forum for North Point called Mervo. Darn..... Huntingtown and Calvert fell short as did even shorter for Northern and Patuxent. Westlake should improve over the next couple seasons but not " very successful", not immediately because in order for Westlake to be very successful, Westlake will need to take Huntingtown - Patuxent - North Point - Calvert - and Northern. I hear the transfer banter many of you spout about Dalawn what he will do at Westlake to turn them around. But things are quite different in the SMAC for those really familar with it. That is, the successful SMAC teams have excellent youth feeder programs, not so-called transfers. Has anyone here seen the annual Huntingtown youth game where the youth teams in the Huntingtown area come to a Huntingtown game ALL dressed in Huntingtown gear and are paraded on the field at half time! The stands and around the field at Patuxent games are packed with youths dressed in Pax jerseys. SMAC kids of the better teams grow up longing to play for their respective teams. Save for North Point, newest St Charles, and older Westlake, SMAC teams are not densely populated areas but rather essentially small rural like areas. To me the SMAC is a three-tier TOP, middle, and bottom-feeder conference and Westlake is at bottom feeder that can only stay put or go up. DaLawn can certainly guide Westlake to move up but that will require Westlake to beat or be competitive against other middle and top SMAC teams, not easy in "eat your own SMAC" which is far different than " rollover running clock central 4A South". Just Saying.... 🤣🤣🤣 This won't age well smh.
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Post by lurker on Feb 18, 2024 13:38:50 GMT -2
numbs,
The SMAC ain't running clock PG 4A where you play just one competitive regular season game every year. Huntingtown, Patuxent, Calvert, and North Point are decent teams with excellent coaches like active MD Hall of Fame Coach Crounse of Patuxent. Yes DeLawn has the solid pedigree to guide West Lake out of bottom feeding BUT it's going to be a build that's going to take time; not a 1-minute microwave heating as Westlake's issue was not just a spent or worn out coach that an energentic Coach p can immediately correct. Nonetheless, Westlake does have a good captain now to steer the ship.
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Post by dcsupersid on Feb 19, 2024 21:20:48 GMT -2
In its own world the SMAC is no joke, but they have to up their game a notch for the larger state stage. The SMAC had many teams to go beyond round-1 of the playoffs and even deep and to title games but the SMAC was shut out for chips last season. Heck, around here many wanted to just hand a title trophy to North Point at mid-season just like they wanted to do to Fort Hill and Dunbar before the season but Something Happenned On The Way To The Forum for North Point called Mervo. Darn..... Huntingtown and Calvert fell short as did even shorter for Northern and Patuxent. Westlake should improve over the next couple seasons but not " very successful", not immediately because in order for Westlake to be very successful, Westlake will need to take Huntingtown - Patuxent - North Point - Calvert - and Northern. I hear the transfer banter many of you spout about Dalawn what he will do at Westlake to turn them around. But things are quite different in the SMAC for those really familar with it. That is, the successful SMAC teams have excellent youth feeder programs, not so-called transfers. Has anyone here seen the annual Huntingtown youth game where the youth teams in the Huntingtown area come to a Huntingtown game ALL dressed in Huntingtown gear and are paraded on the field at half time! The stands and around the field at Patuxent games are packed with youths dressed in Pax jerseys. SMAC kids of the better teams grow up longing to play for their respective teams. Save for North Point, newest St Charles, and older Westlake, SMAC teams are not densely populated areas but rather essentially small rural like areas. To me the SMAC is a three-tier TOP, middle, and bottom-feeder conference and Westlake is at bottom feeder that can only stay put or go up. DaLawn can certainly guide Westlake to move up but that will require Westlake to beat or be competitive against other middle and top SMAC teams, not easy in "eat your own SMAC" which is far different than " rollover running clock central 4A South". Just Saying.... 🤣🤣🤣 This won't age well smh. I agree. You can bet there will be players that transfer with Coach P and he will also get players from the Heat and other independent programs. Westlake will be a contender next fall. Maybe not State championship good but they will make a deep run and be one of the best teams in Southern Maryland.
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Post by lurker on Feb 20, 2024 15:23:00 GMT -2
🤣🤣🤣 This won't age well smh. I agree. You can bet there will be players that transfer with Coach P and he will also get players from the Heat and other independent programs. Westlake will be a contender next fall. Maybe not State championship good but they will make a deep run and be one of the best teams in Southern Maryland. Heck yeah I can be down for this bet if you clarify "... make a deep run" for state championship this fall. Westlake being a "... contender..." is meaningless since everyone is in the playoffs and thus a so-called contender. And I expect Westlake to probably take fellow SMAC bottom-feeder La Plata, McDonough, and Thomas Stone in regular season play and even maybe win a week-10 1st-pound playoff game against another 2 or 3 win team like Crossland, but that's when Westlake will turn in gear. So can the bet be Westlake does NOT get by week-11 - playoff round-2 as it could be Huntingtown - Potomac - or Gwynn Park to defeat.... I really like my odds in this bet; that is, if Coach p does not have any eligibility to actually play for Westlake....
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Post by dcsupersid on Feb 20, 2024 17:46:52 GMT -2
I agree. You can bet there will be players that transfer with Coach P and he will also get players from the Heat and other independent programs. Westlake will be a contender next fall. Maybe not State championship good but they will make a deep run and be one of the best teams in Southern Maryland. Heck yeah I can be down for this bet if you clarify "... make a deep run" for state championship this fall. Westlake being a "... contender..." is meaningless since everyone is in the playoffs and thus a so-called contender. And I expect Westlake to probably take fellow SMAC bottom-feeder La Plata, McDonough, and Thomas Stone in regular season play and even maybe win a week-10 1st-pound playoff game against another 2 or 3 win team like Crossland, but that's when Westlake will turn in gear. So can the bet be Westlake does NOT get by week-11 - playoff round-2 as it could be Huntingtown - Potomac - or Gwynn Park to defeat.... I really like my odds in this bet; that is, if Coach p does not have any eligibility to actually play for Westlake.... They will be one of the top 4 teams playing Thanksgiving weekend for a spot in the Final.
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Post by amateragi on Feb 20, 2024 21:38:28 GMT -2
Based on the other teams in the 2A I would set expectations for Year 1 at modest success with an outside chance at a deep run. Even with Parrish being the big name that he is it will be uphill to attract transfers immediately with North Point just 2 miles up the road. And given what Parrish has said about taking the job because of his local ties I don't see him sticking his neck out in DC or PGCo. But I'm just speculating at this point.
The good news for Westlake is that they got better last year after a couple terrible seasons and were solidly mediocre. That is typically a pretty good springboard for a new coach and a lot better situation than entering a school at rock bottom. Last year Westlake finished 4th in the 2A South behind Huntingtown, Potomac, and Gwynn Park. Huntingtown returns a lot and I have the Canes running it back to Annapolis. So if Parrish and the 'Rines can improve just enough to get the 2 or 3 seed, that opens the door. Potomac and Gwynn Park are typically solid programs, but outside of title game runs in '19 and '17 they haven't been consistent playoff performers. So if Parrish can have the 'Rines take some steps forward, there's definitely a path for them to get into state play in the 2A playoffs. But unless they truly find a way to click they will likely be big underdogs against the likes of HTown, Milford Mill, the shore schools and (hopefully) Damascus & Walkersville
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Post by lurker on Feb 20, 2024 21:43:01 GMT -2
Heck yeah I can be down for this bet if you clarify "... make a deep run" for state championship this fall. Westlake being a "... contender..." is meaningless since everyone is in the playoffs and thus a so-called contender. And I expect Westlake to probably take fellow SMAC bottom-feeder La Plata, McDonough, and Thomas Stone in regular season play and even maybe win a week-10 1st-pound playoff game against another 2 or 3 win team like Crossland, but that's when Westlake will turn in gear. So can the bet be Westlake does NOT get by week-11 - playoff round-2 as it could be Huntingtown - Potomac - or Gwynn Park to defeat.... I really like my odds in this bet; that is, if Coach p does not have any eligibility to actually play for Westlake.... They will be one of the top 4 teams playing Thanksgiving weekend for a spot in the Final. Damn Sid, I nearly ripped my pants pocket off digging deep for every penny I could find to go against your claim of Westlake being a 2024 final four 2A football team. And I would have no emotional issue losing this bet if this impossible happened. I simply see Westlake at best being a 4 seed in its 7 team region behind Huntingtown, Potomac, and Gwynn Park. I can see Westlake winning its round-1 playoff against perhaps Crossland, LaPlata, or Thomas Stone BUT Westlake just ain't beating Huntingtown, Gwynn Park. nor Potomac. But lets go with your assertion that Westlake win its round-2 game That could put Westlake in the lap of Milford Mill or New Town or Damascus or Walkerville or Stephen Decatur or..... Come On Sid!! You really think Westlake just on the pedigree of Coach p will be a final four in 2024 and perhaps states the next season.....really? ? If so, where oh where is my checkbook in this bet.... I ain't numbs. My check is good.
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Post by lurker on Feb 21, 2024 8:55:07 GMT -2
Based on the other teams in the 2A I would set expectations for Year 1 at modest success with an outside chance at a deep run. Even with Parrish being the big name that he is it will be uphill to attract transfers immediately with North Point just 2 miles up the road. And given what Parrish has said about taking the job because of his local ties I don't see him sticking his neck out in DC or PGCo. But I'm just speculating at this point. The good news for Westlake is that they got better last year after a couple terrible seasons and were solidly mediocre. That is typically a pretty good springboard for a new coach and a lot better situation than entering a school at rock bottom. Last year Westlake finished 4th in the 2A South behind Huntingtown, Potomac, and Gwynn Park. Huntingtown returns a lot and I have the Canes running it back to Annapolis. So if Parrish and the 'Rines can improve just enough to get the 2 or 3 seed, that opens the door. Potomac and Gwynn Park are typically solid programs, but outside of title game runs in '19 and '17 they haven't been consistent playoff performers. So if Parrish can have the 'Rines take some steps forward, there's definitely a path for them to get into state play in the 2A playoffs. But unless they truly find a way to click they will likely be big underdogs against the likes of HTown, Milford Mill, the shore schools and (hopefully) Damascus & Walkersville No No No.....Westlake did not get better last season, the other SMAC bottom-feeders of La Plata, Thomas Stone, McDonough, and Chopticon were just worse. The 1 and 9 La Plata coach stepped down after last season. There was 0 and 10 Thomas Stone. Chopticon who has a new coach for this fall from 4 and 6 St. Charles only defeated La Plata and McDonough and I'll leave it to you all to very reasonably figure out who St. Charles defeated last season. And 1 and 9 McDonough forfeited its week-4 game last season because it did not have enough players to field a team and then combined its varsity and JV to finish the season. And Westlake's round-1 opponent Crossland lost to Central who had not won a game in several years although 2A Crossland beat 4A Northwestern who I think did not score a single point the entire season. Westlake was not mediocre last year, just the best region bottom feeder. Westlake will improve this fall - a modest success - if they can beat a team not named McDonough, La Plata, Thomas Stone, Chopticon, or Crossland which is a very low hurdle to clear for the state of Maryland GOAT coach according to my man numbs. But lets deal with that before engaging in crazed banter of final-four or chip for Westlake even under the guidance of the greatest coach ever at Wise or the state of Maryland.
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Post by dcsupersid on Feb 21, 2024 19:08:52 GMT -2
They will be one of the top 4 teams playing Thanksgiving weekend for a spot in the Final. Damn Sid, I nearly ripped my pants pocket off digging deep for every penny I could find to go against your claim of Westlake being a 2024 final four 2A football team. And I would have no emotional issue losing this bet if this impossible happened. I simply see Westlake at best being a 4 seed in its 7 team region behind Huntingtown, Potomac, and Gwynn Park. I can see Westlake winning its round-1 playoff against perhaps Crossland, LaPlata, or Thomas Stone BUT Westlake just ain't beating Huntingtown, Gwynn Park. nor Potomac. But lets go with your assertion that Westlake win its round-2 game That could put Westlake in the lap of Milford Mill or New Town or Damascus or Walkerville or Stephen Decatur or..... Come On Sid!! You really think Westlake just on the pedigree of Coach p will be a final four in 2024 and perhaps states the next season.....really? ? If so, where oh where is my checkbook in this bet.... I ain't numbs. My check is good. You gonna see. About the second or third week of July they will get a few transfers in and that will change the whole equation, lol
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